Cleaning Up. Leadership in an Age of Climate Change

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Aug. 20, 2025

Cleaning Up Redux: From Free Solo to Free Solar — Alex Honnold

This episode was originally broadcast in April 2022 Alex Honnold is one of the world’s best rock climbers, famous for his free solo ascents of big walls, including his 2017 first free solo of El Capitan in Yosemite. Alex bega...

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Aug. 13, 2025

The End of Fossil Fuels Is Inevitable | Ep221: Michael Liebreich & Br…

What if the energy transition isn't a race, but a steady march toward the end of fossil fuel usage? Do we need to move more like the tortoise, and less like the hare? And in a world of competing narratives, who gets to define...

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Aug. 6, 2025

Audioblog 15: The Pragmatic Climate Reset Part 1 — The Energy Transit…

In February, veteran fossil industry advisor Dan Yergin and two co-authors published a piece called The Troubled Transition. In it they dismiss the idea that there is or can ever be an energy transition, anchored on the fact ...

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July 30, 2025

The Inflation Induction Act: How the US Lost The Race for Clean Energ…

Is the US about to enter a new era of energy inflation? Can technological progress outpace political regression? Are we witnessing the permanent end of America's climate ambitions? This week on Cleaning Up, Michael Liebreich ...

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July 23, 2025

North Sea Oil & Gas Is Dying, What Comes Next? | Ep218: Tessa Khan

⁠If the UK can’t ditch fossil fuels, who can? What impact would more drilling in the North Sea have for UK energy prices? What does the end of the net zero consensus mean for UK energy policy? This week on Cleaning Up, host B...

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July 16, 2025

How Fungi Shape Our World, From Carbon Sinks to Zombie TV: | Ep217: …

What if the key to solving our climate crisis lies beneath our feet? Could tiny fungal networks be the unsung heroes of carbon sequestration? And how might reimagining our relationship with fungi transform our understanding o...

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July 10, 2025

The Best Markets for Wind and Solar Are Not Where You Think | Ep216: …

In a world where 17% of all electricity is generated from wind and solar and where 93% of all new capacity added to the grid is from renewables, it can be easy to forget that countries got their first wind and solar resources...

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July 2, 2025

NVIDIA Rising: Will The AI Boom Bust The Planet? | Ep215: Josh Parker

In 1849, when the Gold Rush hit California, the people who were certain to make money were not the miners, but the sellers of picks and shovels. Indeed, America's first millionaire, Samuel Brannan, made his fortune by adding ...

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June 25, 2025

Is There A Future Without Oil & Gas? Ep214: Ben van Beurden

Oil and gas companies lie at the heart of the energy transition. To some, they are heroes, continuing to power human progress despite all the odds. To some, they are villains, responsible for the climate change that is devast...

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June 18, 2025

Deforestation, Oil and Aviation Fuels: A Brazilian Take on the Climat…

What happens if the Amazon rainforest stops absorbing carbon and starts releasing it? Do we need geoengineering to help us cool an overheating planet? And how can developing countries balance environmental preservation with e...

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June 11, 2025

⁠Hydrogen Subsidies, Clean Power & Fixing Spain's Blackouts | Ep212: …

What will it take to finally wean Europe off Russian gas? Can renewables help with grid stability? And is the EU making a mistake subsidising hydrogen? This week on Cleaning Up, Michael Liebreich sits down with EU Energy and ...

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June 4, 2025

Renewables Are Here To Stay. Get Over It. | Ep211: Antonio Cammisecra

The world's electricity system is transforming: We're integrating more and more variable renewables. Fossil plants are running fewer hours. Demand is growing everywhere, including in the developed world, as we electrify trans...

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May 28, 2025

Is The Tide Turning On Hydrogen? Ep210: Andrew Forrest

Billionaire iron magnate Andrew Forrest believes he's on the cusp of a breakthrough to decarbonise shipping and heavy industry using hydrogen. As the Executive Chairman of the Fortescue, one of the world's largest iron ore co...

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May 21, 2025

Bond Vigilantes, Game Theory, And Why The US Shouldn’t Go It Alone - …

Have the bond markets become a new form of global governance? Are we witnessing the end of US economic exceptionalism? And how does game theory relate to cooperation on net-zero? This week on Cleaning Up, Bryony Worthington s...

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May 14, 2025

Can You Run a Grid Entirely On Renewables? Ep208: Anders Lindberg

Can You Run A Grid Without Fossil Fuels? "Yes," says Anders Lindberg, President of Energy and Executive VP at Wärtsilä, on this week's episode of Cleaning Up. It'll just cost €65 trillion extra by 2050. Anders' team at Wärtsi...

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May 7, 2025

Is Geothermal The Future For Oil & Gas? Ep207: Jamie Beard

Geothermal seems to have found new favour under Donald Trump's presidency, but can it ever live up to its potential? Will the oil and gas industry reinvent itself before becoming obsolete? And how might geothermal energy chan...

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April 30, 2025

Uniper Rising: Can Germany's Gas Giant Go Green? Ep206: Michael Lewis

When Russia unleashed its illegal and unprovoked invasion of Ukraine in February 2022, gas prices in Europe spiked by a factor of 10, driving a wave of bankruptcies and restructurings of European energy companies. Uniper was ...

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April 23, 2025

Trump vs The Transition, The Pope’s Climate Legacy & The High Price o…

In 100 short days, the world has transformed. Since the reelection of President Donald Trump, US federal climate policy has largely been abandoned, with the government seeking to reopen coal-fired power plants and lower envir...

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April 9, 2025

We Built a Solar System That's Saving Babies’ Lives — Ep204: Project …

In Sierra Leone, a 20-minute power cut can be the difference between life and death for newborn babies. In 2013, an extraordinary doctor called Dr Niall Conroy set up a neonatal intensive care unit at the Bo Government Hospit...

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April 2, 2025

Google's Climate Tightrope: AI Innovation vs Emissions | Ep203: Kate …

Google has one of the most ambitious climate targets in the tech world, but what happens if it falls short of its goals? How does the company balance innovation with environmental responsibility? And can AI really help reduce...

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March 26, 2025

Net Zero Isn’t Impossible, It’s The Key To UK Prosperity — Ep202: Emm…

The UK is an extraordinary case study in how to cut greenhouse gas pollution successfully. Since 1990, the country has more than halved its greenhouse gas emissions, while the economy has grown by over 80%. The Climate Change...

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March 19, 2025

Can Europe Survive the Transition To Renewables? Ep201: Nikos Tsafos

How does Europe get cheap energy again? Are climate goals at odds with the need to remain economically competitive? Are we about to see an empowered and emboldened Europe, ready to take on China and the US? Barely five years ...

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March 12, 2025

Making America Dumb Again: The Stakes of Slashing Climate Science — E…

As the U.S. swings a budgetary axe at the federal government, one of the biggest casualties is climate science. The National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) faces a brutal 20% workforce reduction—jeopardizing cr...

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March 5, 2025

EVs & Heat Pumps: The Real Alternatives for Germany — Ep199: Patrick …

In February, Germany elected a new government. Friedrich Merz emerged as the new leader, but what are his energy and climate policies, and will Germany remain a climate leader in Europe and beyond? Joining Cleaning Up this we...

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