Cleaning Up: Leadership in an Age of Climate Change

Episodes

Feb. 11, 2026

The Billion-Tonne Promise of Carbon Dioxide Removal Isn't Working Out…

This week on Cleaning Up, Michael Liebreich sits down with carbon removal insider Robert Höglund, CEO of Marginal Carbon, co-founder of CDR.fyi and architect of MilkyWire’s Climate Transformation Fund, for a deep dive into wh...

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Feb. 4, 2026

The World Decides: Clean Energy or Oil & Gas? | Ep243: Damilola Ogunb…

What if the future of clean energy isn’t decided in Washington, Brussels, or Beijing, but in Lagos, Nairobi, and Addis Ababa? Are we underestimating how fast the Global South is leapfrogging fossil fuels? And what happens whe...

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Jan. 28, 2026

The State of the Climate 2026 | Ep242: Zeke Hausfather

How do we model the climate system? How warm will 2026 be? And can geoengineering be anything more than a bandaid? This week on Cleaning Up, Bryony Worthington sits down with leading climate scientist Dr. Zeke Hausfather on t...

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Jan. 21, 2026

⁠Is Africa Poised To Be A Clean Energy Powerhouse? Ep241: Clemens Cal…

Why does Africa, home to 18% of the world’s population, receive just 1% of global energy investment? What’s stopping money from flowing to the continent when it has such good wind and solar potential? And what would it take t...

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Jan. 14, 2026

Climate Action vs Cost of Living: Can We Do Both? | Ep240: Katie Whit…

How do we build a clean energy system while bringing UK bills down? Can the UK’s landmark Climate Change Act stand up to a fractured climate politics? And does increasing global instability make home-grown energy more importa...

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Jan. 7, 2026

Why Is The US So Obsessed With Venezuelan Oil? Ep239: Michael Liebrei…

Is the link between oil and geopolitics starting to diminish? Has climate consensus fractured just as clean energy hits escape velocity? And are batteries, not barrels, becoming the true source of power and security? In the f...

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Dec. 31, 2025

Cleaning Up Redux: Canada's Controversial Queen of Green — Tzeporah B…

This episode was originally broadcast in June 2023, watch the episode on YouTube here . Cleaning Up will return with new episodes January 7th, 2026. Tzeporah Berman has been leading environmental campaigns in her native Canad...

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Dec. 24, 2025

Cleaning Up Redux: Hot Rocks in a Box — Anand Gopal

This episode was originally broadcast in June 2024. As the world transitions away from fossil fuels, one of the biggest challenges is decarbonizing industrial processes that require consistent, reliable sources of energy to p...

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Dec. 17, 2025

Technology Rich, Politically Poor: How 2025 Reshaped The Energy Trans…

What will be the long-term impact of the US’s great leap backward on clean energy? How will the emergency of China as an electrotech giant reshape geopolitics? And what will be the defining trends and technologies of 2026? In...

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Dec. 10, 2025

Honey, I Shrunk the Oil And Gas Sector | Ep237: Lord John Browne

What happens when clean energy starts to outgrow fossil fuels at scale? Is it right to call China an electrostate? And how long will we be reliant on hydrocarbons? This week on Cleaning Up, host Michael Liebreich sits down wi...

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Dec. 3, 2025

Demand Destruction & Oversupply: How Gas Prices Are Reshaping The Wor…

What happens when a nation’s energy security rests on volatile global gas markets? Why does the UK pay market prices for some of the world’s cheapest-to-produce gas? And is now the moment to rethink decades of “leave it to th...

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Nov. 26, 2025

Inside Europe’s Largest AI Data Centre: A Green Giant Rises | Ep235: …

What does it take to build Europe’s largest and most sustainable data-centre campus, from an empty plot of land to a 1.2-gigawatt giant of AI? How do you future-proof a facility when chip technology is evolving at breakneck s...

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Nov. 19, 2025

California vs Trump In The Battle For Clean Air | Ep234: Liane Randol…

What happens when the world’s most ambitious climate state runs head-on into a hostile federal government? Can California still lead the clean-energy transition while battling rising costs, wildfires and the Trump government’...

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Nov. 12, 2025

⁠The €65 Billion Plan to Modernise Germany’s Grids | Ep233: Tim Meyer…

What does it take to future-proof Europe’s electricity grid? How do you finance €65 billion in infrastructure without driving up consumer electricity costs? And can the permitting process be sped up to become fast enough for ...

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Nov. 5, 2025

Why There'll Never Be A Hydrogen Economy | Ep232: Erik Rakhou

Is green hydrogen a ‘miracle fuel’ or an expensive illusion? Can we decarbonize without it? And what happens when hydrogen hype meets hard economics? This week on Cleaning Up, Michael Liebreich debates Erik Rakhou, author of ...

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Nov. 3, 2025

The Electrotech Revolution Will Not Be Fossilized | Ep231: Kingsmill …

What if the energy transition isn’t about sacrifice and belt-tightening, but abundance? Are electrified technologies ready to replace the polluting fossil fuel system we’re so reliant on? And what will it mean for western nat...

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Oct. 29, 2025

COP30: Caught Between An Electrostate and A Petrostate | Ep230: Rache…

This week on Cleaning Up, we welcome back Rachel Kyte, the UK’s Special Representative for Climate Change, for a deep dive into the shifting landscape of global climate diplomacy ahead of COP30 in Belém, Brazil. Rachel brings...

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Oct. 22, 2025

The US Just Sank Shipping's Big Plan for Decarbonization, What Now? |…

Global shipping contributes about 3% of global greenhouse gas emissions, equivalent to the total emissions of Japan or Germany. The sector, including its contribution to climate change, is governed by the International Mariti...

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Oct. 15, 2025

How To Move Away From Fossil Fuels Faster — Bryony Grills Michael on …

This summer, Michael Liebreich wrote two essays under the title of the Pragmatic Climate Reset. The first challenged the idea that the clean energy transition has failed. And the second challenged the clean energy and climate...

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Oct. 8, 2025

The £60 Billion Plan To Rewire Britain | Ep227: John Pettigrew

What does it take to rewire a nation’s energy system? Can we make the grid cleaner, smarter, and more resilient — without driving up bills? And how will the explosion of AI data centres reshape the future of electricity deman...

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Oct. 1, 2025

Will India and China Join Forces To Get Off Fossil Fuels? Ep226: Dr A…

What does it take for India to deliver electricity to hundreds of millions while simultaneously building a fast-growing clean energy system? Can it overcome its fossil dependence to secure its energy futures with renewables? ...

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Sept. 24, 2025

Can We Save the Great Barrier Reef? | Ep225: Dr Katharina Fabricius

Why should we care about coral reefs? What happens when they collapse? And is there still hope for their survival? In this episode of Cleaning Up, Bryony Worthington sits down with coral reef ecologist Dr. Katharina Fabricius...

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Sept. 22, 2025

Audioblog 16: The Pragmatic Climate Reset, Part II — A Provocation

The election of Donald Trump to a second term as President marked a turning point in the politics of climate action – not just in the US, but around the world. The airwaves are suddenly awash with commentators, claiming that ...

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Sept. 17, 2025

Less Doom, More Data: Debunking the Biggest Climate Myths | Ep223: Dr…

Is the future of clean energy and climate solutions brighter than we think? In this episode of Cleaning Up, Michael Liebreich welcomes back Hannah Ritchie — Deputy Editor at Our World in Data, researcher at the Oxford Martin ...

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